My question to you is, one hears of ancient Gods, say in Indian mythology like Krishna, who were supposed to have super natural powers, did they really exist? And if they did, why not now?
Dear Anonymous, as you know I decided to address your comments or questions in an article since the question has arisen many times before and sometimes it takes a comment such as yours to refresh my memory. The question is so interesting because every society, culture and civilization since the beginning of time as you know it has had its own gods which they paid homage to in some way. I want to make a distinction here, I use the term gods (not in capitals) to refer to gods in general. In the case of the true one God, I will always use a Capital “G” or as I prefer All That Is with capitals (ATI).
Now, all of the gods of ancient and more recent history including Krishna existed in one way or another. Some existed in the inner universe only and were never materialized in a physical body. Some were so relevant to their times that the myth created around their existence emerged into and was blended with the current needs and beliefs of the times. They could not have materialized onto the realm of the physical Earth, but the populations belief in them affected entire civilizations through a psychic blending of their beliefs that the gods would manifest and change their societies.
We can speak here of all gods, including the Greek gods Zeus, Hermes, Neptune, Pluto, Mars and others too numerous to mention. The many civilizations worshiped a seemingly unending list of deities and gods including, Allah, Jesus, Krishna, Shiva, Mohamed, Buddha, Thor, Venus, Jehovah and hundreds of others impossible to list here, but you know what I mean. I will begin with a broad statement that the truth of which can be found in your own buried unconscious understanding. All gods who are worshiped or held in high esteem by certain populations exist in one way or another although most did not exist in physical bodies but existed in psychological fact only, but still carrying enough weight to affect the direction of entire civilizations of their times.
If you are to really understand what is meant here, you must divest yourself of the belief that something must possess a physical body to be “real” in your context, and I must remind you that the most powerful, evolved and mature god-like entities and the one Prime Source Itself does not possess a physical body, although they may have at one time in the distant past.
Physical materialization is a stage that your type of human culture goes through on its journey to greater knowledge, it is not the norm in your universe by any means. You could say that possession of a physical body is transitional, temporary at best, and not at all a pre-requisite for identity or personality. True identity exists before the physical body and will exist long after the body is discarded and left behind to return to the earth.
Consciousness exists before and after the physical body, period! Consciousness creates the physical body.
There are all kinds of variations of gods, and I hesitate to say this, but some of you hold many living beings in the “god status” for no good reason other than to say that they are in some respects more accomplished than yourself. How many in your society idolize movie actors and actresses, televangelists, singers, popes, performers, writers, directors and so on. Don't answer that, its a rhetorical question, of course.
Gods in some very real way are partially created by the intensity of the beliefs and needs of the societies that they are associated with, societies lacking in many respects the qualities that they imagine their gods to posses. In some ancient times, especially in biblical times, as in the book of Genesis when their god parted the waters to create the firmament, and when the Israelites needed a strict, warrior god to swoop down and rout the invading hoards or to save the masses as in Moses parting of the waters to help the Israelites escape Egypt.
Of course in following times this angry god mellowed into Jesus and came on the scene portraying a more kind and benevolent god on earth. In a very true way, people create their gods in their image instead of the other way around. That is why the gods seem to change with the evolution of civilizations. If god created man in his image, which mans image I may ask did he use as the model? The Arabs, the Israelites, the Africans, the Chinese, The Berbers, the Croats, Hispanics, and so on. Can you see how ridiculous this line of thinking is?
The truth is that man creates his gods as much as gods create man. Much of what is written about gods is pure fiction, myth and superstition embellished by tales of heroism, miracles, creation and possessing supernatural powers and eternal life. Now, I don't want to be too glib about this, but YOU create everything around you, your environment, your world, your universe and your objects that you love so much, and most importantly, you own physical body, so you are unknowingly a creator of everything that you perceive. You live forever although you may discard a few bodies along the way, your consciousness is eternal, so could it not be said in the case of the human species, that you are all mini-gods. I want to make clear here that I am not assigning divinity to you, but implying that there is a spark of All That Is in everything that exists on your plane.
The point I am getting at here, in the traditional sense that you all understand, there is no god that you would recognize that falls into your usual idea of what a god is supposed to be. You insist in imagining your gods in a physical body or physical form, in Western societies, looking like the typical heroic, courtly, Caucasian gentlemen with white flowing hair and beard, usually carrying his traditional scale to weigh your sins and the lightning bolt to smite you into smithereens for so much as looking at an attractive person in admiration.
Fortunately, most of you reading this article have progressed beyond those over simplistic children's tales that are still predominant in your society today. That can be somewhat understood since earth civilization is in its early stages of development. Earth is a training ground for new emerging personalities, learning the creation and manipulation of physical matter and you are just beginning your journey, so your primitive beliefs can be forgiven, but the time is here where you must begin a true understanding of the truth about the reality of your world, your origin as a species, the universe, God and beyond. In other words you must begin to put your toe in the water and set yourself free from this self imposed limiting, false religious dogma.
There are inner truths and these truths are known, but you will never find them in a typical church unless you eradicate the centuries of decaying dogma and false teachings. There are answers to the question above that we are discussing here, and I will try to give some semblance of sanity to the distortions and remove your blinders that imprison your given intellect and use of logic. To continue to believe what you have been taught to believe, one has to ignore logic and intuition to some great extent. You have the innate ability, built in, embedded in your genes, to see much more than you now see, to understand much more than you now understand and to gain access to inner wisdom that is part of your heritage.
To an ant living in your closet, you are the god who daily opens up the closet door and lets in the light, then closes it bringing on the dark. When you walk by, the floor rumbles and his world shakes, and so to the ant, you are a god that can be depended on to bring on the dawn every day to his limited world. Everything in your world and beyond is related, and everything that your world consists of is in accordance with your perceptive abilities. There is much more available to your perception that your own ego filters out, in fear of its own dominance in the physical world.
Those who have achieved god status in your times, those who you worship to one extent or another are in simple terms, those who are far more advanced than yourselves, and by that I mean that they have lived and lived again, and again and again, and have grown and matured in their knowledge and have returned to teach, lead by example and to show the attributes that all should aspire to. Their presence is not an accident in your world, and in truth, those of who you consider your gods were sent to show the way.
What you consider to be god-like miracles attributed to Jesus, Krishna, Buddha, Mohamed and others, some are truths, others are myths, superstitions, children's tales, fantasies and delusions handed down over the centuries from family to family, tribe to tribe, society to society, and over the centuries, these tales evolved into elaborate combinations of all of the above, most of which are not valid today, but yet, you cling to them, even suspecting their distortions because you have nothing to replace them with.
There are hierarchies of consciousness identities from the smallest to the grandest, the smallest beginning with the first smallest physical particle that ever knew the material world to the most grand who you would call the ultimate Prime Source, the God of all. So, I will, as I always do, refer to Him/Her/It as “All That Is” from this point on. I have told you before that I usually reference my limited knowledge about organized religion through biblical references, due to my familiarity with Christianity rather than other religions, but what is said here applies to all religions.
I will refer to the one God, All That Is as He, only because it is more commonly used, but please understand the All That Is, is no more male than He is female or even something in-between. As simply as I can put it without getting sidetracked here, All That Is is not a person at all, nor is He in any way motivated by what you consider human traits, desires or emotions. God, All That Is, is an energy essence identity and all energy possesses a generalized consciousness, so you could say the your one God is the top of the pyramid of consciousness gestalt that composes all of creation, you, the world, galaxies, quasars, solar systems, countless universes and every species that has ever lived and will ever live in any or all alien worlds. And that is just the beginning! There is much more to come.
There are countless levels of identities that make up this Prime God presence at the top of the pyramid of consciousness and they are from the top down, the most advanced of the advanced, first entities to be created, who now could be considered gods in their own right. Nearing the bottom of this pyramid of continuing evolving conscious identities, you can be found, only differing from the more advanced entities in the amount of time you have spent on your journey, which incidentally, is eternal. In a way, you too are an incipient god, with a long way to go, but someday you will stand in the position of many advanced entities of today.
These ultimate advanced entities because of their overwhelming, god-like maturity, power and abilities, cannot materialize in any physical world, since the reality of their total presence would overwhelm one physical consciousness in a one physical body. The entity then, creates a fragment or splinter personality, and actual portion of itself from its own being and projects it into a reality system of its choosing, and thereby vicariously experiences everything the personality experiences without being there in full presence. It's kind of like osmosis of experience transferred to the entity unknowingly from and through the earth bound personality.
Jesus was born into the world of matter as a fragment projection of one of these highest, most evolved entities and his life was not an accident. He was in a way a very evolved fragment psychic personality representing the full Entity of which he is a part. This Christ Entity appears again and again in Earth history through the ages. His latest mission on earth was well planned, and prophesies were given to mark his arrival. He was the fulfillment of a grand intricate drama that originated in another dimension, then emerged and played out on the physical landscape affecting civilizations for centuries to come.
Jesus was a very advanced mystic with unimaginable psychic abilities. There were others that existed in somewhat the same position, with varying abilities and degrees of development throughout the centuries, they had varying success and their works are well archived, as is your Krishna. There are many more, and their miracles are the result of nature unimpeded by your lack of understanding. What Jesus and others of his import to some extent accomplished in the realm of miracles is nothing that is out of future possibilities of every person alive today.
In other words, Jesus has evolved to Godlike status and you have not. There are no limitations. Gods evolve, but the one true God always was and always will be and that my friends is one thing attributed to the Bible that is not a distortion. It is only from your perspective, trapped within the continuum of time and space that such a statement seems illogical and impossible. In that respect, there truly was no beginning and there can be no ending.
You create reality and you are not aware of your own complicity in this creative process since it is automatic and happens over time. If you think of a fish, it immediately exists in another dimension and begins a journey which may or may not result in a physical presence in a physical ocean, depending on a multitude of other factors.
The miracles of Jesus were different in that his abilities were so much more advanced, and if Jesus thought of five thousand fish, the creative process happened immediately. The creative principle applies equally in both instances, the only difference being in the level of sophistication and development of the originating consciousness.
Jesus will return, new prophesies will be once again given and a new drama will be played out for all to see.
WoW! Thank you for explaining that to me... How you find words to grasp this knowledge amazes me... Already waiting for your next...
I am pleased that you are pleased.
We are all on a journey, and we help each other along the way.
The non judgemental study of gods and religions brings an awareness that it is only that which we believe that is real for us. There is only one God - All that is, but because people choose to define in terms they are comfortable with they limit their beliefs to a certain religion and a certain god - mostly with a form.Oneness then is splintered into many interpretations;many religions.God cannot be contained within a form,a religion or a limiting belief.God cannot be defined as a mere perception.
You are right the judging, jealous god of the old testament must of taken his happy pills if he is the same charitable god of the new.If we open our minds and our hearts we will find the truth of our soul.
It is people like you that help others realise that their beliefs may not be so benefical to them and it is only by knowing the Truth that we are set free from all limiting constraints and contradictions.
Neat article - thankyou
I understand that there are superior beings who exist who may be called as deities in different reality systems.They are NOT the advanced entities who
have already experienced the earth reality and evolved in to mature beings.
These deities may be evolving in a different stream of life, far advanced than the human and some other beings.
The question is, what is their role in the earth system?Why do they exert
their influence in this system when the Entities of humans were powerful enough to assist their personalities(Of course the entities created the personalities and it is their responsibility to take care of the personality's lives and what is the need for the deities?)
I think that the deities enjoy the love and love and affection shown by the human personalities towards and hence they in turn assist them in their lives.The Entity in some way gets benefited by this relationship.Thus there exists a Triangular relationship between the Entity, Its Personality and the Deity.
Please correct me if my understanding is incomplete
Those advanced Entities are ancient in time terms, but it is important to understand that they could have evolved from or through the physical system or any other non-physical system. Some are so ancient that they existed before the materialization of a physical universe. They are personalities, as you are a personality, but many of them have never personally experienced physical existence. Physical existence is not the norm, but a quite specialized reality system.
These very ancient Entities are not gods in the traditional sense, since the traditional idea of gods is far off the track. Their reality is made up of the reality of lesser evolved entities and personalities, if it were not for you and others like you, from your system and other systems, their reality would either not exist or would be severely diminished.
The reality of these advanced entities is supported by the reality of all those who would be considered less evolved in various systems not so developed.
I do not like the term "God" since it is so distorted as to be almost meaningless. Entities/Souls possess capabilities and characteristics far beyond anything described by your religions. Their reality is truly beyond description and they have evolved through systems that are truly astounding and are alien to earth personalities.
Remember, everyone and everything is part of someone or something else. As the small consciousnesses of your cells, make up your physical organs of which your directing consciousness ands is the top of your bodily conscious pyramid, so you could compare yourself with individual cells that make up the Entity. Your life is not affected one iota by the individual nature of your bodily cells and they do not even know that you exist. In much the same way, your Entity is aware of your existence, but does not concentrate on it, and you are completely unaware of your intimate connection with and unknowing psychic support of your entity. No conscious identity stands alone.
Reality is very rich and complicated, and not easily understood, but it helps to keep wondering.
Thanks for clarifying.I am not able to comprehend the below concept.
//Their reality is made up of the reality of lesser evolved entities and personalities, if it were not for you and others like you, from your system and other systems, their reality would either not exist or would be severely diminished//
Could you please explain further the above as I have difficulty in understanding this.
since the answer you seek would be lengthy, please send your questions directly to my e-mail address;
and I will answer in more detail
Whenever I find time, in the late nights or week offs, I start reading your articles and later reflect on them.Its thought provoking and illuminating and when I feel like expressing my thought on the subject or asking a question for further understanding I do so here.
Some comments, questions are published and answered and some are not, am wondering why it is so?
I try to make every effort to publish almost all comments. Some however, are so off-the-wall, and given in such a critical way, that I don't publish them. I do publish all comments regardless of whether they agree with my viewpoint or not. Everyone deserves a right to speak their beliefs. It is possible that sometimes I overlook a comment by accident. If you have something to say, as long as it is not of a viscous nature, please resend it and I will make sure it gets posted.
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